OLW Parish Meeting Regarding Building Plans
Monday, May 11, 2009
Opening Prayer at 6:30 p.m. … Fr. Don Dilg
Meeting called to order by Fred Mais, chair of Steering Committee
Prayer by: Fr. Don Dilg, Sacramental Minister
Present: OLW Staff, Steering Committee, 46 members of the parish and Vince Colarelli of Colarelli Construction and David Langley, Architect, both who have contributed to this report generously without payment.
· Two tasks as charged by parishioners at January 2009 parish meeting: Evaluate existing structure for possible renovation and evaluate feasibility of construction using available funds including cash on hand, pledges and possible loan.
· Result: Document “Property Condition Report” prepared by Colarelli Construction that has a full summary of the existing structure and recommendations and costs for repairs and renovations as well as the recommendations and costs for adding a core and shell addition based on David Langley’s drawings. Drawings on poster board also included in presentation. (Drawings are now located in parish center for perusal.)
Comments by Deacon Roger Eberwein … last time we gathered, we took a task to find a new direction from you and this evening we think we have that for you this evening.
Recycling effort
· Single stream recycling now available at Our Lady of the Woods… paper, plastic, newspaper, junk mail, paperboard, glass, tin ALL in one bin. Aluminum for youth to raise funds is in separate bin.
· Don Sohn is heading up this new Environmental Committee. Next meeting June 1, 6:30 p.m. in Admin Building.
Steering Committee members
Fr. Don Dilg, Roger Eberwein, John Gonzales, Lucie Haskins, Fred Mais, Vicki Rector, Don Sohn Sonny, Strobl, Pete Tysdal, Liz Walker … all available at any time for comments or questions.
Vince Colarelli
Vince of Colarelli Construction has been with this process working with the Steering Committee for about two years. He presents the full report with a 2-page costs sheet (attached below) which is a summary of the larger report… available upon request to read from the office. Points of presentation:
- Money pledged: a little less than one million; money on hand; about $300,000.
- With Colarelli Construction … working with committee for about two years. …
- Different resources, different program needs, adjust expectation based on fundamental root needs of parish and available resources.
- React to input of parishioners … alternative strategies requested.
- Strategy that allows for providing program space in a phased process.
- Alternative for consideration is in report.
- Important to discern … is there a viable answer in reuse of existing facility
- Recommendation Number 1 — What it would take to upgrade this facility?
- The report answered the questions – what are the existing deficiencies, to make it safe, code compliant, esthetic dress up.
- Code compliant is trigger to all recommendations
- Restrooms
- Sprinkler system
- Electrical system
- Life safety issues
- Energy efficiency
- Critical improvements
- Other recommendations
- Total $554K
- Recommendation Number 2 - Core and Shell Addition
- Extending building to the west with two-story addition.
- Downstairs… could accommodate seven classrooms, meeting rooms, mechanical, storage, restrooms, and elevator. Functional and multiuse space.
- Upstairs … sacristy, adoration chapel, choir space, choir storage, restrooms, elevator, extend worship space to north and south, large narthex off east entry; New entry to north and additional seating.
- Phase … large unfinished open space (shell) at first, which does not affect current church. … ready to finish up with additional funds; work by either parishioners or professionals.
- Total $892K
Two different costs … 554K for renovation; 892K for shell; additional for design fees, permits, etc. comes to about 1.8 or 2 million to accomplish both jobs.
Question & Answer
Q: Why elevator located there?
A: Elevator is less expensive in new construction rather than building into old structure
Q: What about seating in worship space?
A: Seating about doubles from 250 to 450.
Q: How long will this building last with modifications … as population grows?
A: 50 years before growth demands change. Quality of building will also last 50 years until systems need to be renovated.
Q: What about required parking?
A: Additional parking is sufficient across drainage ditch.
Q: In terms of Sustainable ecological design what is being planned?
A: The most environmentally responsible plan is to reuse and renovate existing structure. New shell will be buried into hillside, which provides energy efficiency also.
Q: What about Financing?
A: We have $900K … currently pledged. We had more, but some people retracted their commitment. Current funds available on hand are about $300K Diocese does not match us.
Diocese is having trouble getting funding in this economic environment itself. The way it works … construction loan… pledges go to loan repayment. We need to get our own funding. We also have to take into consideration that we have to service the debt with the money coming in from pledges and offertory.
Q: What about maintenance costs?
A: Part of renovating makes it more energy efficient. We now have porous walls and windows with large energy loss. This will be repaired.
Q: Do costs include fees?
A: These costs are construction costs …. Additional fees are design, permits, assessments, etc. Variances will be requested as the addition will not require a certificate of occupancy because it will only be a shell. Total will come out to about two Mil.
Q: Clarify shell?
A: Costs do not include finishing out large vacant spaces. Only gets critical improvements and the shell. However, having the shell with walls, systems and floors in place will enable moving forward for finishing. Finishing can be done in a number of ways … but can include sweat equity of parishioners.
Q: What about ADA … accessible restrooms required?
A: Yes, but not until finishing of addition in next phase.
Q: Is this a reasonable way to go? Setting aside the financial issues ….
A: Vince’s reflections only … first drawings before we realized our financial resources were limited focused attention on new sanctuary. This parish does not have large growth in Mass attendance. The driver is not attendance. The driver is the ministry programs and the space required for that. We have now an iconic building. The use of money to renovate makes a lot of sense when the funds are creating capacity for expanding ministry programs. The compelling reason about the addition… it will provide for the growth when it comes. The whole vision to come together and build a shell that will admittedly take time. It takes time and brings people together … piece by piece by piece. Parishioners can contribute “sweat equity.”
Our only resource constraint is money.
Q: Once building starts, can we use the worship space?
A: Yes … committed to allowing worship and meeting space to be used during construction.
Q: Time frame?
A: 17 weeks to build shell and do the renovation
Q: Does construction involve creek?
A: No
Q: Interior walls … what happens to them?
A: Walls will be thickened by 4 inches to provide better insulation … aisles will have to meet minimum standards. Details will be worked out with construction drawings.
Q: If we just do the renovation and not build the addition … will we lose the vision?
A: Having the shell structure in place … will be a real inspiration to finish it.
Q: What about heating system?
A: The ultimate answer is a comprehensive system for entire building. Again, these details will be worked out with construction drawings.
Q: What would it cost to do it all at once?
A: Additional $50 to $100 K.
Q: Could committee firm up those numbers for finishing all at once? What about costs for construction today?
A: Costs going up or down. In recent times, construction costs going down 15%. Significant cost reductions at this time. There is an advantage to doing it now.
Review …
- Renovate $383K for critical renovations or $554K for all recommendations. (see handout)
- Build shell $892 K … cannot be used right away. Exterior would be contiguous to existing building. Finishing will be later phase.
- Prior architect costs are sunk … we paid for “new church” concept drawings on field.
- New architectural drawings would take to a new level beyond concept and into construction details.
- Funding … committee is looking at options for construction loan or bridge loan.
- Hope is that once construction starts a number of things will happen. It will re-energize the parish; economy will get stronger; pledges will increase.
- Need to determine how much increase in our contributions will be required to maintain new building and service any debt.
- All numbers will be needed to be calculated and submitted to Diocese for approval.
- Systems for heating …. This needs to be detailed out when drawings begin.
- In terms of Sustainable ecological design… most environmentally responsible plan is to reuse and renovate existing structure. New shell will be buried into hillside, which provides energy efficiency.
- Firm up additional costs; firm up costs for finishing. Two largest pieces in costs are architectural design and financing costs.
- Question is do we continue … begin spending real money for drawings and financing?
Resolution
A hand vote resulted in 94% of those present authorized the committee to move forward with resolving the additional costs and researching financing options.
Another parish meeting in early fall … possibly September.
Adjourned 8:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, VMR
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Our Lady of the Woods
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ColarelliConstruction
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Woodland Park, Colorado
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Properties Conditions Report
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SUMMARY
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Recommended Building Improvements
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Exterior Wall Insulation & Window Replacement
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$58,794
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Addition of Restrooms at Upper Level/ADA Compliance with Lower Level Restrooms
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$124,900
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Electrical Service/Fire Alarm Improvements
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$48,024
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Addition of Fire Sprinkler System
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$69,460
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Other Critical Improvements
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$82,258
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SUBTOTAL Critical Improvements
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Subtotal $383,436
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All Other Recommendations
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$170,984
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TOTAL Recommended Improvements
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$554,420
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Recommended Building Improvements in Terms of Concerns
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Building Code Concerns
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Life Safety Concerns
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Energy Use Concerns
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Aesthetic/R&M Concerns
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Exterior Issues
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$0
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$605
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$30,169
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$103,607
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$134,381
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Interior Issues
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$197,930
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$52,857
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$117,468
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$51,784
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$420,039
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Subtotal
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$197,930
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$53,462
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$147,637
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$155,391
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$554,420
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ColarelliConstruction
Project Name: OLW: Core & Shell Addition
Project Location: Woodland Park
Design Documents: . Concept plan prepared David Lanley 3-1-09
Estimate Type: Budget Estimate
Project Size (gsf): 9.768 gsf
Date of Estimate: April 6. 2009
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Broken Down By Site vs Building Costs:
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Direct Cost
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Indirect Cost
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Total Cost
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Cost/sf
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Site Costs
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$109.916
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$19.880
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$129.796
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$13.29 per gsf
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Building Costs
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$645,462
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$116,742
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$762,204
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$78.03 per gsf
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TOTAL
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$892,000
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$91.32 per gsfl
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Broken Down By Building System:
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System
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Direct Cost
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Indirect Cost
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Total Cost
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Cost/sf
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General Conditions
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$79,120
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$14,310
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$93,430
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$9.56 per gsf
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Site Costs
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$109.916
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$19.880
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$129,796
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$13.29 per gsf
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Demolition
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$17,400
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$3,147
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$20,547
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$2.10 per gsf
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Foundations
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$130,300
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$23,567
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$153.867
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$15.75 per gsf
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Structure
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$141.372
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$25.569
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$166.941
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$17.09 per gsf
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Skin
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$95.627
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$17.296
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$112.923
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$1 1.56 per gsf
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Roofing
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$50,330
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$9,103
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$59,432
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$6.08 per gsf
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Interiors
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$36,310
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$6,567
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$42,878
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$4.3 9 per gsf
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Conveying
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$0
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$0
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$0
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$0.00 per gsf
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Fire Sprinkler
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$34,188
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$6.183
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$40.371
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$4.13 per gsf
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Plumbing
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$12.500
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$2.261
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$14,761
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$ 1.5 1 per gsf
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HVAC
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$9.247
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$1,672
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$10,919
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$ I. 1 2 per gsf
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Electrical
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$39.068
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$7.066
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$46,134
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$4.72 per gsf
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TOTAL
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$892,000
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$91.32 per gsfl
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